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Going to Implode From This by endler Going to Implode From This by endler
I've said countless times that I'm not fond of bringing religion into a conversation that doesn't include it. It would be amazing to meet more and more religious people that can truly think for themselves without needing text, and I don't know about anyone else but I never bring in anything of religious faith if I am having a discussion with someone.

Most of the time you want to ask, "Might you please get back onto track?" but it'll keep going...and going...until it just turns into a completely religious conversation that went off course from the main subject.

Sighing, you decide that alright you'll play along and be included, bringing in whatever faith you have to counter argument.
I've noticed most of the time if it's different...the other person will start complaining about it, telling you that what you're saying is irrelevant and so wrong and everything they believe in is such fucking fact that they should just be ignoring everything they say. :T

And that's why I really don't want it brought in to something that doesn't include it. At least one person isn't going to happy about it and it's going to turn into religious war fair.
In fact, one side doesn't even have to be religious. It could be any faith, including Atheism, and it will go array. Many go like this:

Christian: The bible and God said so.
Atheist: I don't believe in God so that really falls flat.
Christian: He does exist, and he said that this was wrong.
Atheist: Did you not read what I wrote? I said I don't believe in a God so the argument really does fall flat. Can you give any reasoning beyond that?
Christian: He just does exist, that's all the reasoning I need. You should believe that too because it's true. You shouldn't say he doesn't exist because I believe he does!
Atheist: :iconfacepalmplz: Fucking Christ.

Before I get a shit storm that can easily be turned around or...any religious people who have differing views could be placed there.

Bringing it in is more than likely going to cause a fucking storm, no matter which one it is. I mean, if you can at least try to be more polite and curt about it, fine, but huge descriptions of why your religion/beliefs say that you are right and why I'm going to hell for my belief and why I'm hated by people because of them is just so damn...tedious.

:iconshitstormplz: I can sense the shit storms coming from here.

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RogueWarrior869 Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I am one of those people who live life on personal morals and stances. However, I have seen some atheists come in on religious videos and start bashing on them and others for no reason. It can be idiotic both ways. Have your faith(or non-faith) but uphold some level of respect, sheesh.
endler Featured By Owner Aug 6, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I've addressed atheism as well on another stamp. xD
When I say this I really do mean...any faith. No matter what exactly you have. Like personally, I'd rather not suddenly plop the Dao De Ching into a random conversation.
Desuke-Love Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2012  Student Writer
I got really annoyed once when I said that I believe something because it's a part of my faith and someone told me 'but God doesn't exist so that can't be a reason.'
Me; Well I believe in God, so it is a reason for me.
Him; Yes, but God isn't real, so you need another reason.
Me: I don't need another reason, because I believe God is real

It carried on till I gave up -_- He wasn't even trying to get it
masterfedora Featured By Owner Aug 4, 2012
Yes, a gazillions times yes. IMNSHO opinion if you feel so threatened by others beliefs then yours can't be all that strong. I would love to have a real conversation about religion/spirituality that didn't either turn defensive or insulting.
AsheSkyler Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm a bit of a folklore nut so I enjoy discussing religion. But the problem lies in finding somebody who isn't Christian or Atheist. I was raised around Christians so they hold no new things to fascinate me, and unless the Atheist in question is a science buff they hold no fascination either. :frustrated:
Rivermask13 Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012  Student Writer
That Atheist-Christian argument pretty much sums it up.

Though often it also goes like-

Christian: Well, God says it's wrong.
Atheist: Well, seeing as I don't actually believe in God, you might need a little more than that...
Christian: You should read the Bible. Then you'll see that God exists.
Atheist: Actually, I have read the Bible, and that's what convinces a lot of atheists that he isn't real.
Christian: That's nice. But Jesus loves you!
Atheist: I think you misunderstood... I don't believe in God OR in Jesus.
Christian: Jesus still loves you.

The world would be a better place without religion, methinks... but as fun as arguing about it may be, it doesn't belong in unrelated conversations. It has its place, and that isn't in a lot of places.
Love this stamp!
canineEnthusiast Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012  Student Digital Artist
I'm an Atheist, and well, the only thing I would have against this stamp is that Atheism isn't a belief or religion, at least the way I see it. It's simply the lack of one, put simply. But anyway, I agree because I'm an Atheist and don't like being told that my lack of belief is wrong just because a book that's been rewritten time and time again says so.
Ichiban-suzukochan Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012
This is a wonderful stamp and I want to use it.
sodapoq Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist

I personally am pretty open about my religion, I stand strong and proud in it, but I NEVER bring it into an unrelated topic. It's a pointless thing to do, ESPECIALLY if the other person has a completely different belief. I have made my faith in my religion clear, but only in times when it has been appropriate. You don't just go walking in on someone's page and say "HEY THAT ONE THING YOU DID IS NOT IN THE BIBLE, SO STOP OR YOU'LL GO TO HELL!"
But at the same time, it can be the atheists thinking that they know enough about a certain religion to hate on it. For example, in my religion, we don't believe that homosexuality is the right thing to do, so someone just comes up and says "ALL OF YOU ARE JUST HOMOPHOBES! STOP HATING ON PEOPLE AND LET THEM MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICES AND STOP RELYING ON YOUR BIBLE TO TELL YOU WHAT'S RIGHT AND WHAT'S WRONG!" When that isn't the truth at ALL. They didn't even take the time to learn the facts of my religion, except that we don't believe in homosexuality. So they automatically assume that we're homophobes, or that we'll go around hating on homosexuals and throw Bibles at their faces. And it just...URGH! That isn't true at ALL! It's like a fandom. There are SOME people that MIGHT do stupid things, or things that make them hated, but the whole freaking group doesn't act like that! Anyway, the point I was trying to make there is that this situation is also bringing up a religion when it isn't needed, and the weirdest thing about it is that it's someone of a different religion talking about my religion. It just doesn't make any sense.

Holy crap, I need to stop ranting on your stamps Dx sorry about that

But yeah. this is very well made. I love the point you make!
Ichiban-suzukochan Featured By Owner Aug 3, 2012
Really freaking true.
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