"When I ask you what it is about this show that you don't like I was hoping for something of better substance than 'IT JUST SUX'. "
Or "IT'S FOR CHILDREN SO IT SUX." "IT'S GAY." Or, all over "BAAAAW THE FANDOM RUINED IIITTT.
I don't know about anyone else but I have to actually give reasoning to why I don't like something. For instance, in my Adventure Time stamp I actually gave to why I don't like it: I found the material inside boring. Animation and artwork I could admire, and admittedly some creative imagery and ideas, but it simply felt like one episode was an hour long, lagging on and on. It was also far too slow paced and quiet for something that's supposed to be one of the modern randomness abound cartoons.
I have yet to see something from people who dislike MLP that's actually solid. An actual good reasoning other than 'IT'S FOR KIDS IT SUCKS HNNG'.
Like what is it? The characters? The settings? The voice acting?
Honestly, before I got into FIM I hated My Little Pony. Hated it to bits and couldn't get why the fuck people were liking this one...one day I managed to catch the last five minutes or so and even though there wasn't much for me to grab, the first thing I thought was:
"Huh...well the animation is actually really nice. It's fluid, almost like a little send off to old Cartoon Network styles."
And that was when I still didn't like it. Yet, it's so hard for people to even acknowledge anything good in it because...again 'IT'S A KID'S SHOW THE FANDUMB'S SUCK SO MCUH RAGAEJHGKFADFSD'. Those are the only critiques I have ever seen. I have only seen about...yeah, one person who ripped it apart in a proper, solid, critical fashion...and yet they still like the show. Or at least are a...more...small fan of it.
Everyone else just wants to use the usual argument of HOLY FUCK IT'S A CHILDREN'S SHOW THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH. Hey. Kid's shows can be really good if they do have a decent team behind them, one that actually cares about the intelligence of the audience.
But I suppose it shouldn't be a surprise that more extreme of haters are blinded by their...hatred. They simply see something and either because of the fandom, it's popular, or they want to jump on the bandwagon, they go around screaming on the rooftops about what a pile of shit it is without actually giving it a critical looksey.
Unfortunate, but what can you really do other than make stamps. :U
The show is a completely innocent childrens program...The fans are 15%psychotic teens 10%creeps 25%imature people who can't spell 10% Are unoriginal preteens who can't design but spam you anyway,and 40% are the leftovers who non bronies just can't handle no matter how righteous they are ,because the other 60% are mind numbingly ridiculous. Source -I've been on the internet and that is enough.
As a redo of my old comment, what really happened was when I joined the fandom I decided to give the first episode a go, around the time when season 4 was spreading around. It wasn't what I was expecting at all, actually. I loved it!
I will have to say it's overrated (I do like Frozen, but not as much as other Disney movies), but that was more or less due to constant overexposure of "Let It Go" (which, to a metalhead like me, can get a little irratating)
I hated bronies for a period in my life, probably because I used "gay" as an insult a lot, so I sorta threw it around when talking about bronies. Then some shipping in the fandom sorta drew me in... xD
Please tell me how Zekora isn't racist. She's a character that is shunned at the beggining, practices witchcraft, and lives in a forest away from civilization. MLPFIM says she's from "distant lands," but everybody with a shred of knowledge relating to biodiversity knows zebras are from Africa. I should also point out that Equestria is a monarchy, which were very common in Europe. This means that the beggining of her debut can be equated to a bunch of white characters either picking on or being generaly scared of a single black character.
There's a difference between being _racist_ and being _stereotypical_, though; racism is purposefully malicious in intent, stereotypes are not. A African witch doctor character is not uncommon in fiction, and it's not inherently negative, unless the media paints _all_ Africans as primitive.
And, as an analogy, if you grew up in a society where everyone was the same race and then someone else of a totally different race moves in, you'd be weirded out, too; that's social conditioning for you. Black people were shunned for a while in America, too, so saying that a bunch of people conditioned to their own kind reacting irrationally to someone totally different is a clear sign of racism is like saying that me (a Canadian) being confused by a Latin American man standing in the middle of a bus stop in winter makes me racist; it's not intentional racism, it's just a cultural reaction, not intentional racism. That, and racism is a negative thing most often.
That, and teenagers can be easily swayed by other teenagers, and adults often grow up with stereotypes being displayed; so if anything Zecora is fairly non-racist, just a little stereotypical.
"A African witch doctor character is not uncommon in fiction, and it's not inherently negative, unless the media paints _all_ Africans as primitive." Since Zekora is the only African(mlp equivalent of, at least,) in MLPFIM, it does count as all. That's just a technicality, though.
"entire second paragraph" Sure, but Twilight (seemingly) has enough knowledge of the topic that she wouldn't be at all surprised. Ergo, racist reaction; as slight as it may be. Other than that, touché.
But racism is built upon by using negative stereotypes to judge people based on ethnicity. At the risk of looking like a child, I haven't done the whole icon thing in a while. Aye.
my sister really likes zekora, and would like to be her if she was a pony, i told her about some of your comments, and she said, "if i where you i would be like, how about your a whiny little bitch?" me: WISH FULFILLMENT! c:
Her home is covered in things related to witchcraft and feral tribes, implying africans are "other" and\or "progressing backwards." and before you say thats just their culure, it is not. literacy rates are at least 75% in most african countries, and many countries are industrialized.
i've been writing and rewritting a comment to reply back to this but im so stressed about this winter storm that's coming i haven't been able to write anything but i've been basically saying that no the show isn't being racist with the idea of zecora as a character at all
the episode in which zecora appears in everyone learns to accept Zecora even if she is a bit weird because she's spiritual
it was "I can't cope with what's going on right now and I can't write back a response because of all the stress i'm under and i'm more focused on that than to bother explaining my point to you so here's a little sentence with my main idea slapped together with little to no backup"
you know that artic vortex thing or whatever that's hitting the US right now? I live in the area that's getting affected the worst by it. i'm more concerned about the power going out and what i'm going to do than explain to someone about how a cartoon zebra isn't racist.
I remember being in one anime fandom where everybody hated one particular character. They all hated him for very vague reasons: "because he's stupid" or "he's emo" or "he's gay". None were legit reasons. Years later, today, I now know why everybody (in the Western fandom that is), hates this character: In Japan, brooding male characters, especially if they're pretty, can be seen as attractive, while here, they are seen as one-note brooding characters, which are repulsive. Also, the character would not shut the fuck up about avenging his fallen family (who were EVIL by the way), which we Westerners see in a very negative light. We believe that avenging is the exact same thing as revenge: which is selfish and will not satisfy you, and only create more problems. Ironic considering that we have a popular comic book series about "earth's Mightiest Heroes" called the "Avengers" while we hate the idea of avenging because we think it is a selfish act (Why are they called the Avengers, anyway?) In Japan, avenging is seen in a more respectful light. The fact that this character WOULD NOT SHUT UP ABOUT IT made him seem like a whiny little dick, much like those annoying whiny characters (usually kids), such as our Robin (ugh, Robin.....I love it when Batman comic books or movies DO NOT include him), or even worse, Wesley Crusher. As you may have noticed, I wish to keep the anime fandom I was once in and the Scrappy from said fandom anonymous. Fans in the anonymous anime fandom may know who and what I'm talking about however.
Heh, I was similar to you in that I despised My Little Pony before Gen4 came out. Then all of a sudden, ponies were everywhere and I just fell in love with Luna/Nightmare Moon's design. She's what pulled me in
But I agree completely, blind hatred isn't good for anyone :/
I dont like My Little Pony for several reasons (I dont like the characters, and the idea that other animals are not as intellingent as ponies in that universe) but I will still respect the people who like it and still treat them as human beings.
The characters are somewhat one dimensional and are somewhat "modern stereotypical girl types". Best term I could come up with. For example, we have the excuse for feminists not to attack the show, the party animal who seems to be overly spunky, the shy one, the southerner, and the princess, although I must give credit where credit is due, as they strayed away from the typical show princess. The stories..... meh. At least they aren't the typical stereotypical tales from a show of that target audience. I do my best to ignore the fandom, as long as they don't have to plaster ponies on every comment page. All in all, I give it a 2.5 out of 5.